Should I trade my 08 Sti for a Supra????

[FastfreddyRs]

So i found someone who is willing to trade me even for a 1997 Supra TT for my 08 STi.

The car looks clean it's a 97 6 speed Twin turbo with 60k miles on it.  only mods are an HKS Catback and a boost controller.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2230414

I've always wanted one of these cars and they book way better then my sti does.


What would you do?

 

[SideshowBob]

Wait, he wants $38k but will trade straight-up for a Subaru?

[FastfreddyRs]

yeah, thats why i think i should do it!!

i looked on autotrader and he is about right with his asking price.

[ed]

The ppl on nasioc are nasty for no reason. They're on that dude like he owes them something for not posting pics? Sheesh.

[RedRex]

Well, you're a Subaru expert, especially with your job. Do you know someone that knows a lot about the supra, that could professionally check it out?

If you've been dying to get a supra like that one, and would rather have it than your '08 sti, why not? Check out all the usual things: condition, value, etc. and go for it if they all check out.

'08 sti's are a lot easier to come by. Besides, it's a road trip. Just my .02.

[SideshowBob]

I would trade it without thinking twice.

You would have to get a winter beater though. I see you driving that around on snow covered roads I'll slit your throat.

The ppl on nasioc are nasty for no reason. They're on that dude like he owes them something for not posting pics? Sheesh.

In all fairness it's in the rules posted right at the top of the forum.

[ed]

I would trade it without thinking twice.

You would have to get a winter beater though. I see you driving that around on snow covered roads I'll slit your throat.


In all fairness it's in the rules posted right at the top of the forum.

Noted, I suppose all involved are to blame for the initial flame fest.

Back on topic, Fred, if you've always wanted one, go for it.

[skyphix]

If you really think you can turn a big profit on it and enjoy it while you've got it, then go for it, but just to fund what we talked about while you were doing my timing belt.

[spoolordie]

Do it most definitely, like mentioned above you could turn that car around for more then you have into the STi, not to mention that motor is plenty capable of 1000whp  with proper mods

[FastfreddyRs]

its a toss up, i can fix anything on my STI. I have done a little work on a TT supra in the past but not nearly enough experence with them. so if something goes its not like i can just go to work and have it.

 I would probally end up selling it in a few years to fund a house, but for the time being i could enjoy it and most likely end up selling it for more then my sti. it's not like the price of supra's is falling.

[SideshowBob]

If you kept it that Cherry there is no doubt you could sell it at a gain.

[peter32892]

Do it. 

[RedRoof2]

STi's are a dime a dozen.  Supras aren't. 
The only downside is that you must remember - it's a 90's sportscar.  It's heavy steel, it has old struts, old bushings and other old components.  It's sloppy in stock form.  You have a 500lb cast iron block stuffed in the nose.  It's going to feel like a land yacht in comparison to the STi, the steering ratio is nowhere near as quick and you're still going to have to deal with emissions compliance.  Where the Evo feels like a scalpel and the STi feels like a kitchen knife, the Supra is a battle ax.  94-95's were the cherry year for that platform here in the US.  You have to install oil drum-sized rubber underneath it to make it stick well and it won't ever be an agile autocross queen.

All the same, I'd buy one.  Life is too short to say you've never driven a Supra.

[deadlydave]

STi's are a dime a dozen.  Supras aren't. 
The only downside is that you must remember - it's a 90's sportscar.  It's heavy steel, it has old struts, old bushings and other old components.  It's sloppy in stock form.  You have a 500lb cast iron block stuffed in the nose.  It's going to feel like a land yacht in comparison to the STi, the steering ratio is nowhere near as quick and you're still going to have to deal with emissions compliance.  Where the Evo feels like a scalpel and the STi feels like a kitchen knife, the Supra is a battle ax.  94-95's were the cherry year for that platform here in the US.  You have to install oil drum-sized rubber underneath it to make it stick well and it won't ever be an agile autocross queen.

Also, it's a 2-seater and you have kids...won't ever be able to take the whole family on a spirited drive.  Stock parts are a bitch to find.  Honestly I'm kind of 'meh' on the car.    The interor sucks, everyone's gonna wanna race you, and the exterior is not that pretty.

From a resiliency stand point it's a solid platform.  Will you be able to leave it alone?  Near-stock power is not that great for a car of that class anymore.  Does anyone around her have experience with tuning them?  Is the title clean?

Trying to hit all angles, don't wanna see you get boned.

[FastfreddyRs]

they do have a back seat if you can call it that, so the kids could fit in there until they are about 10.

I have driven one and it was years ago, and land yacht does fit that car well. I would probally leave it about as stock as it is to keep resale up.

[TheBigChill]

 I wouldn't do it.  "But Aram, TT Supra is teh secks, and so much powwaz". 

 Really the only reason I say this is because you mentioned you'd likely drive it, only to sell it not too long after.  This isn't Los Angeles, and Paul Walker isn't real, and it'll likely be tough to sell the car around here for the $30k or whatever it is you'd be asking for it.  This is one of those cars that's so god damn pricey, so rare, that it runs up a premium price so high, a bank won't loan 1/3 of the money needed to buy it if one was so inclined.  I hope you're confident that in a shit economy, people are buying $30k+ Supras with cash.  If you're not at all worried about being able to easily sell it when the times comes, I say roll with it.  Remember, there's a reason the seller is willing to trade you for a car worth less (*Hint- He's having a hard time getting the straight $$ he wants for it)


Edit:  To build on what Dave said:  It's only appeal to me personally is the ability to make big power.  Other than that, I find it to be overall a bit underwhelming and primarily hype based on rarity.

[RedRex]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^all valid comments.

I would not buy one with the assumption that I could resell it at a profit in a  short period of time.  There must be a very limited market for these cars, and money is tight everywhere.

I would buy it, if I were you, if everything checks out, you can get a good deal and afford it, and because you always wanted one and haven't found a good one yet that you could get your hands on.

My brother-in-law has a good friend that has had one for a number of years. I think he has around 500+ hp. He does all the work himself, and tracks it.

Come to think of it, I'm going to ask him for some pics.

[KA_Killuh]

It's a RWD straight-6.  I can't imagine it's too hard to work on. 

If you plan on just playing around with it and then trying to sell for profit, I say no.  Too easy for something to break or get damaged, plus you'll be racking up the miles.  Like everyone else said, it's hard to sell a car of that age for so much money.   If you just want to get the car, modify, and keep it for yourself, I say definitely.  Cars are not an investment. 

[hydrochloric]

It's a RWD straight-6.  I can't imagine it's too hard to work on.

Then you've CLEARLY never worked on one.  They are an absolute BITCH to work on.  One example?  To change plugs, you have to remove:
• Turbos (depending)
• Intake Man. (Which is a multi-peice unit)
• Coil pack
• Throttle Body

Seriously, these things were designed to be built and then never touched.  Basically everything driveshaft up to the engine will require octople-jointed arms AND fingers, or 5 hours of work.

But, I'm a sucker for un-modded versions of these, so I would do it.  Then again, I have other cars around to fall back on.  If it were gonna be my DD, I wouldn't do it, especially if I planned on selling it later.

You would have to get a winter beater though. I see you driving that around on snow covered roads I'll slit your throat.

You wouldn't have to, the Supra itself would punish him for even attempting to drive it in snow.  Whoops I twitched, spin-slide-crash.  I have a friend with an '89, he tried it in the snow once.

Once.

He promptly went out and got a Corolla.

Fred, it sounds like you've kinda set yourself on it anyway, so will any of this matter?  Probably not. But that's fine.  If it's actually what you want that badly, you won't mind the trouble of working on it (at first anyway), and you ought to be able to unload it for more than you got it for, especially if you keep it as is.

But it won't be easy. 

[KA_Killuh]

Don't worry, I've been in the business awhile.  Removing intake manifolds to change spark plugs is part of Toyota's design charm.  It needs to be done about every...100k miles?  Not really a big deal.  I imagine you will be somewhere in the neighborhood of other repairs at the same time.

[hydrochloric]

I'm not saying it's a roadblock.  You're right though, I probably phrased it wrong.  They aren't difficult to work on, they're a royal PITA to work on.

Still though.  The intake manifold?  Come on, Toyota.

[TylerBeau]

Okay. You got that STi for a steal of a price. So trading that for the Supra, you wouldn't lose too much money I think. Even if you turned around and sold it right away. It'd be hard to find a buyer and take some time maybe. But thats all. I could be wrong. I'm not exactly certain on how much that car is worth.
And like someone else said. How much more rare is that than the STi! And an amazing car. Personally a fav of mine.
You've got your Leacy sedan still for the winter and kids right?
So my vote is Supra I think.

[RedRex]

Here's that guy's Supra, on the way to an auto-x      (Have to be logged in.)

[hydrochloric]

Here's that guy's Supra, on the way to an auto-x   

Huh?  That's an 88, I think...  The one for sale is a 97.  Totally different...

[RedRex]

^ I see that...well it's a nice car.