wagon to sedan conversions

[RedRoof2]

Just had to post, since I ran across this pic.  I think it's one of the more gorgeous Subies I've seen.  The stance is fine - not overboard Hellaflush, but I'd want about 1/2" to 3/4" more ride height.  I'd have stayed with a regular WRX front bumper.  The STi is okay, but seems too pretentious, since we know better about what is and is not a true STi.   I also like how he rolled and pulled the rears properly.  The car looks like it could've been built this way as a factory hotrod special.  To me, that's absolute perfection.

[skyphix]

Wow, ^^ that.

A little nitpicky, I don't really like the rear spats, but I do like the STi bumper.

[Kavik]

that's hot 

got a link with more info or more pics?

[rshaw123]

Is that sedan rear fenders or something different? It doesn't really look like a regular sedan flare.

[Kavik]

not rear sedan fenders, looks like he just stretched the fenders that were there?  or maybe cut them out and welded in a very subtle and smooth flare.  I'm curious about how he handled making the doors match up to it.   Hard to tell from that one pic, but it looks like the rear edge of the door has a slight bend to match.....very impressive

[rshaw123]

I love the way that cars looks though. It has the exact wheels I want to buy for my car, just I want bronze or white (except not 18x10, maybe 18x9 or 9.5  )

[deadlydave]

I love the way that cars looks though.

It's cheaper and easier than the box flares from the sedan.  And has more character.   

[rshaw123]

That's what I was thinking, it looks better then just sedan rear flares IMO. I wish I could find more information on this car and see what exactly they did.

[RedRoof2]

Ask and Ye Shall Receive:

http://www.topscoob.com/2009/01/ts-spotlight-bran808s-2004-wrx-wagon.html

[rshaw123]

Why thank you kind sir.

[Kavik]

interesting close up of the rear in that link..........thanks 

[rshaw123]

Im going to look into to see what exactly was done. I feel with the rolled fenders he could actually have ran a sedan bumper but I might be wrong.

[kaisertech]

I have a logical idea, why don't you just BUY A SEDAN??

yup totally not worth it to try and convert it, plus you;ll end up destroying the integrity of the car. You would have to cut your car in half and peice it back tobether and without the proper frame machine and measuring equipment you would never get it back together right.

[skyphix]

yup totally not worth it to try and convert it, plus you;ll end up destroying the integrity of the car. You would have to cut your car in half and peice it back tobether and without the proper frame machine and measuring equipment you would never get it back together right.

The front end swap is easy, adding the rear fenders is more difficult.

We're not talking about cutting the back of the car off and tacking on a sedan rear half.

[rshaw123]

yup totally not worth it to try and convert it, plus you;ll end up destroying the integrity of the car. You would have to cut your car in half and piece it back together and without the proper frame machine and measuring equipment you would never get it back together right.

If I wanted to turn my wagon to a sedan, I wouldn't have bought a wagon.
What I wanted was to see prices on adding rear sedan fenders to give a wider, more aggressive stance for my car.  I had my mind made up that I wouldn't be doing the rear conversion because it wasn't worth it to me.  I am doing the front conversion though for sure, I just want to find out more information on how the owner of the car posted above created the flare like that with stock fenders and doors.

[Kavik]

yup totally not worth it to try and convert it, plus you;ll end up destroying the integrity of the car. You would have to cut your car in half and peice it back tobether and without the proper frame machine and measuring equipment you would never get it back together right.

you have such a strong opinion on what something is worth to other people in regards to this mod 
even in a full rear end conversion you're not cutting the frame, just a section of the outer shell.  These cars dent if you look at them wrong, if you're telling me the integrity of these cars is relying on those soft body panels...well, then we're all screwed

[RedRoof2]

Personally, I LOVE the wagon style.  Always have, but I didn't like the narrow track or wimpy front fenders compared to the sedan.
Realistically, this guy rolled and pulled his way far beyond the additional 10mm track width of the sedan, on each fender.  Remember, he stuffed 18x10's underneath this thing.  That's hard to do even on a sedan.  A wagon with sedan fenders would have to roll about half to three quarters of an inch on the rear fenders to make things work with a smaller wheel.  This guy easily pulled a full inch or more.  Look at the sharp edge.
I'd be happy with a 9" wide wheel all the way around and the pull necessary to make it happen.  Even an 8.5" would be sufficient.  I'd rather have more tire than wheel onboard.


Quote me now while I'm feeling good about it.  I've decided a WRX will be the vehicle that replaces the Jeep.  I can't see paying Evo prices or justifying purchasing a halfassed/beat to death example for the same asinine amount of money.  For an affordable, point to point, all-weather capable performance car, a wagon fits the bill.  A swapped wagon, even better.

[skyphix]

Quote me now while I'm feeling good about it.  I've decided a WRX will be the vehicle that replaces the Jeep.  I can't see paying Evo prices or justifying purchasing a halfassed/beat to death example for the same asinine amount of money.  For an affordable, point to point, all-weather capable performance car, a wagon fits the bill.  A swapped wagon, even better.

Posterity, and my new signature.

Also, I love my wagon. Small enough to fit into small spaces (sides don't get scratched going into hunting/fishing spots), large enough to fit my 4 large dogs, copious hunting/fishing equipment, or store my bike inside during race season, and easy enough to modify whatever direction I want to go with it (handle better? Sure. Cheap. Make it bit taller? Sure, cheap)

You can run some fairly sizable tires in wagons, its just the width that gets you...

[rshaw123]

 I made it mine too so everyone can see . But I want the wider stance in the front and I will have to roll my rear fenders eventually because I want at least 18x8.5 rota grids for summer use, but that's far away.  Are the fenders and headlights different from a STI to a RS or even a WRX? I know the bumper is different and the hood has a bigger scoop on the STI but is everything the same otherwise? 

[kaisertech]

If I wanted to turn my wagon to a sedan, I wouldn't have bought a wagon.
What I wanted was to see prices on adding rear sedan fenders to give a wider, more aggressive stance for my car.  I had my mind made up that I wouldn't be doing the rear conversion because it wasn't worth it to me.  I am doing the front conversion though for sure, I just want to find out more information on how the owner of the car posted above created the flare like that with stock fenders and doors.

I see what your saying now you just want to make the wheel openings flare out some more? There's is actually a tool called a fender roller. It bolts to the hub and has a roller wheel that allows you to roll the fenders out. I actually have one. A lot of vw guys need to do that to fit wide rims on their cars

[skyphix]

I made it mine too so everyone can see . But I want the wider stance in the front and I will have to roll my rear fenders eventually because I want at least 18x8.5 rota grids for summer use, but that's far away.  Are the fenders and headlights different from a STI to a RS or even a WRX? I know the bumper is different and the hood has a bigger scoop on the STI but is everything the same otherwise? 

STi headlights are different but only because they're HID, not shape wise. Fenders are the same (STi fenders might be aluminum or something, but not looks wise).

[Kavik]

fender rolling only gets you so far.  it will be part of the process, but there's more involved here than just what that can accomplish

[RedRoof2]

Well, you can roll and pull to a certain degree - usually a fairly large extent, as long as you're not afraid of repairing cracked paint.  The main issue is if you need to cut and roll.  THAT requires a competent bodyshop.  Personally i'd stop at an inch of extra wheel width outboard of the existing wheel.  Any more than that, you're asking for fender flares, not fender rolling.

[kaisertech]

Well, you can roll and pull to a certain degree - usually a fairly large extent, as long as you're not afraid of repairing cracked paint.  The main issue is if you need to cut and roll.  THAT requires a competent bodyshop.  Personally i'd stop at an inch of extra wheel width outboard of the existing wheel.  Any more than that, you're asking for fender flares, not fender rolling.

yes exactly last one we did was a vw corrado we had to cut slits and stretch it way out adding sheet metal where need. Even had to cut the wheel wells.

[rshaw123]

I was planning on taking my car to a body shop to do all the work. It needs a respray anyways so I figure I will pay the extra money and have the fenders flared while its in there.