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Offline klarowe

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Recommend me a good clutch
« on: September 04, 2012, 10:03:42 AM »
Yesterday was the first day I decided to turn the boost back up and have a little fun (was running only 14psi for daily driving). I was playing around with a buddy of mine in his 2012 WRX and we decided to do a quick pull for fun. Well sadly he destroyed me (which should not have happened). My launch was great and I had decent pull through first but I noticed that it seemed to hit 6k a little quicker than normal. I didn't think anything of it and hit 2nd. Well 2nd almost immediately went to 6k without any pull. So I let off, hit 3rd, and rolled back into it and still really didn't have much pull. At first I thought I just didn't get any traction (cold night, cold tires) but within about a minute or 2 I could smell that distinct smell of clutch. Well I know for a fact I didn't ride the clutch out and there was no slipping until well after the clutch was fully disengaged so the only thing I can think of is that the clutch is starting to slip.

I really wouldn't doubt if the clutch is bad. The clutch has always given me issues where it would seem to engage at different points, so it took almost 3x as long as it would normally take for me to get used to it and I did end up riding it a few times (nothing major or even to the point of smelling clutch, but enough to wear it down a little quicker than normal).

So with all that babble finished, what would you guys recommend for a clutch? This realistically won't be done for a while because I have no normal drive-ability issues and even if I ease into the throttle, it seems to hold fine. It only slipped when I was hard into it from a stop. But I'd like to get some ideas so I can start researching my best options.

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2004 STi. Tuned at 24psi. Roughly 375awhp. I don't track it, and its a daily driver so I don't want anything extreme that is going to make my left leg twice the size of my right. I also don't want something cheap and useless that either won't last, won't hold the power I'm making, and preferably won't have the issues this one had of engaging at a different point on every shift... lol.

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*Disclaimer: All driving / testing was done on a closed course.
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 10:30:55 AM »
I have an act performance disc with an extreme pressure plate. It's good to 565ft lbs of torque. I have 354 awhp and it holds just fine. Coming from having a 4 puck before this clutch its so easy to drive and you can pick one up for around 650.
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 10:31:48 AM »
as recommended by fred, this is what i'm putting in the legact gt
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130760581835?ssPageName=STRK:MEBOFFX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1427.l2649
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2012, 10:43:07 AM »
I did the ACT Super Street with an OEM flywheel  :mrgreen: Prdal effort is a little more, but not to bad. It is barely noticeable after a solid week of driving it.

Get a light weight flywheel if you wanna be sooper JDM racer Boi four LIFEEE  :2funny:
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2012, 11:16:51 AM »
lwfw makes a noticable difference, it's rotating mass.  I have a lwfw on my s2k and the difference in acceleration was very noticable.
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2012, 11:33:59 AM »
lwfw makes a noticable difference, it's rotating mass.  I have a lwfw on my s2k and the difference in acceleration was very noticable.

yes.

Wagonzilla had a super lightweight JUN flywheel and that car reved quick when blipping the throttle.
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2012, 01:31:55 PM »
yes.

Wagonzilla had a super lightweight JUN flywheel and that car reved quick when blipping the throttle.

Absolutely.  While I don't know what clutch is in there paired with it, it's not stock, but not crazy.  It only hurt when I was driving with a sprained ankle for 5 weeks last year.  The LWFW was easy to get used to for rev-matched downshifts.  I initially shifted too slow for how quickly the revs dropped, especially 4->5, but again, it was easy to get used to. 

While I have no clue what to recommend for clutch, I can tell you to stay away from:  Unsprung and 'Puck' clutches. 

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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 02:24:04 PM »
If you aren't planning on drag racing the car, I'd do the lwfw.  It was one of my favorite/most fun mods on my WRX.

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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 04:19:17 PM »
As much as I'd love to race it (drag or autox), I can't afford to fix it when it breaks. So she is just a really fun daily driver for the time being.
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 07:03:35 PM »
clutchmasters fx400 and a flywheel of your choice

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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2012, 12:12:01 PM »
Its all up to you and your driving preference.  I daily drive my car and I really didn't need the LWFW. Not to mention if the flywheel is too light the ECU throws a misfire CEL. Well that's alright im going to go into Romraider and disable the misfire CEL....... :buck2:

I also wonder how the LWFW affects the weaker gearboxes in the early WRXs.
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2012, 02:01:33 PM »
Absolutely.  While I don't know what clutch is in there paired with it, it's not stock, but not crazy.  It only hurt when I was driving with a sprained ankle for 5 weeks last year.  The LWFW was easy to get used to for rev-matched downshifts.  I initially shifted too slow for how quickly the revs dropped, especially 4->5, but again, it was easy to get used to. 

While I have no clue what to recommend for clutch, I can tell you to stay away from:  Unsprung and 'Puck' clutches.

I had an exedy Stg 2 clutch with a 9lb flywheel.   I DO NOT Recommend this setup to anyone unless you are driving the car where you only have to start from a stop once in an hour.. It was a devilish beast to get moving.  Dave can vouch for this.

Although I wish i still with a "lighter than stock" flywheel, and OEM clutch.

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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2012, 09:54:55 AM »
I had an exedy Stg 2 clutch with a 9lb flywheel.   I DO NOT Recommend this setup to anyone unless you are driving the car where you only have to start from a stop once in an hour.. It was a devilish beast to get moving.  Dave can vouch for this.

Although I wish i still with a "lighter than stock" flywheel, and OEM clutch.

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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2012, 03:30:30 PM »
"Drive my car with psychoclutch.  And one of your passengers is pregnant."   :coolsmiley:

I tried teaching her stick on psychoclutch while pregnant.   She refused to ever try again.   It probably would have been better if she wasn't wearing a seatbelt.

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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2012, 05:32:16 PM »

 Don't forget about South Bend clutches.  They seem to have a pretty good rapport w/ the STI guys.

 I've always ran Exedy stuff on my cars, and thought very highly of them.  The only deviation from that was the one instance where I ran a Spec Stage 3+  6 Puck Ceramic.  Ugh, fuck that thing...  I spent 8k miles with it and then changed it out for an Exedy Stage 2.

 Whatever you do, if this is your DD, I'd stick with a full-face organic sprung disc if possible.

 Where LWFW's are concerned; pair it with too aggressive of a clutch, and you'll be leaving stop signs like a race car driver.  The lighter rotating mass means you have to rev a bit more to get rolling from a stop, then add in a clutch w/ abrupt catch action.  Vroom vrooom skiirpppp.   :wink:
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 11:18:30 PM »
Where LWFW's are concerned; pair it with too aggressive of a clutch, and you'll be leaving stop signs like a race car driver.  The lighter rotating mass means you have to rev a bit more to get rolling from a stop, then add in a clutch w/ abrupt catch action.  Vroom vrooom skiirpppp.   :wink:

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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2012, 11:55:58 AM »
jake- hookedontronics, fred usually is spot on so if he suggests that i would def go with that, I got a different version of the same clutch and im having some shudder that they say is normal, ill let you know if it ever goes away. you can drive my wrx to get an idea of what it will feels like- I actually prefer this over the stock one big time. the clutch itself feels alot less pressured with the lightweight flywheel in that kit. Minimal effort. to the original poster I would recommend the same- that company sells pretty good kits. A stock oem one is expensive as hell, and subarus stage 3 clutch drives like ish.

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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 06:19:54 AM »
Well I'm finally getting around to getting the clutch since it's starting to get worse. Jake, what clutch did you post? The listing expired so I can't see what it is and I can't remember. I am leaning right now towards the ACT Performance with the extreme pressure plate but want to check that one out again. Who's found the best price vs customer service for ACT and where?
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2013, 07:22:45 AM »
All ACT clutches are the same price just about everywhere when I was shopping, I went with free shipping. You are welcome to try my XTSS when I get it in there!
Im pretty sure wherever you purchase it from they all drop-ship from ACT in California themselves!

Edit: Keep in mind, ACT rates their clutches in lb/ft at the crank while Exedy rates theirs in lb/ft at the wheels!
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Re: Recommend me a good clutch
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2013, 09:54:08 AM »
I have that same clut h in my car you're more than welcome to drive it if you want. I like it alot especially since I came from a 4 puck ceramic lol.
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