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Offline WRXer

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Flat tire questions
« on: January 14, 2018, 06:24:34 AM »
So Iím driving on 890 at the standard speed. Between lanes there are a lot of pot holes that have been cold patched. I go to change lanes and I crossed one of these pot holes that must have had the asphalt ripped right out of it. Big thud and one $300 blizzak later, Iím off the highway changing a tire with a huge blow out.
Being the first time this has happened to me I have questiones:
This ever happen to anyone?
I have heard of municipalities paying if the pothole was already reported. Is this true?
If a municipality would even listen, who am I talking to?
The vehicle was my Audi so now I have to change four very expensive tires. Is there any market for these three good tires with more than half the tread left?
Anybody been through something where they try to get a highway dept to pay for damages?
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 11:01:39 AM »
Is there any market for these three good tires with more than half the tread left?
Probably a market with someone else who drives in the Capital District.   :-D

Is it that critical to not have one new tire on an Audi?  I did that with my Outback for a few months, until it was close to replacement time on the other three. 
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 01:00:51 PM »
Probably a market with someone else who drives in the Capital District.   :-D

Is it that critical to not have one new tire on an Audi?  I did that with my Outback for a few months, until it was close to replacement time on the other three.

I am going to bring blown tire to measure the tread. After a second look with a calm mind this morning, the tire looks much closer to new than I originally thought. I may be within the threshold of tread difference. I think its said to be about 3/1000? Everything I am reading says the quatro takes signals from the rotation of the tires blah blah blah need four tires. I would be very happy to just purchase one.
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 04:19:40 PM »
Geeezusss man, what kind of Blizzak's run $300 apiece??

Sorry, have no useful advice for you, have never tried going after a city/state for pothole damage.
No road hazard replacement warranty on tires that expensive?
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2018, 01:14:36 AM »
I am going to bring blown tire to measure the tread. After a second look with a calm mind this morning, the tire looks much closer to new than I originally thought. I may be within the threshold of tread difference. I think its said to be about 3/1000? Everything I am reading says the quatro takes signals from the rotation of the tires blah blah blah need four tires. I would be very happy to just purchase one.
Any adaptable AWD setup takes signals from the rotation of the tires.  Usually using the ABS ring.  The question is how good is the resolution of the readings. 

Realistically, 3/1000 is so small (even if it was 3/100, that's only 0.03") that a slightly different PSI from one tire to the next would affect the AWD.  And unless you're spending really incredible amounts of money on tire gauges and checking the pressure every couple of miles, it's unrealistic to think that the number would be that small.

I'd bet if you had a micrometer large enough to go the diameter of the tire, you'd be surprised how much they vary in diameter, even measuring four new tires. 

I have a feeling (though I could be wrong) that the claims that the AWD is that sensitive are a combination of Audi marketing and Audi owners justifying spending as much as they do on their cars.   :-D

You could always buy one tire and shave it down. 
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 01:37:26 AM »
Here's tirerack's take on it: https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=18

Snippets of interest:
-the cost of our street tire shaving service will range from $25 to $35 for each tire
-Audi: As published in their vehicle owner's manual, "rolling radius of all 4 tires must remain the same" or within 4/32-inch of each other in remaining tread depth
-Subaru: Within 1/4-inch of tire circumference or about 2/32-inch of each other in remaining tread depth.

Of course, I'd verify that with your manual or a dealer, but it's a place to start  :mrgreen:
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 07:07:24 AM »
I know tire rack shaves tires but would they do winters and that small of an amount? That would be my answer right there if I could make it work for matching purposes. I know thatís not why they shave tires.. making some calls today to find out my options. If I only have to spend 300 I will do a little dance.
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 09:43:44 AM »
Can't imagine why they wouldn't do winters
And the examples given in that link imply they will do any amount in 1/32" increments
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 11:14:57 AM »
 So lucky me the tire is discontinued. But on the other side of the coin went on eBay found one tire for sale used. Only has 6/32 left on it. Guess how many are left on mine? 5/32! The whole thing will cost me 100 bucks mounted and balanced instead of 1400. I am Happy beyond words. This will get me through the The last winter that the tires actually had on them.  Oh and I said thousandths before And it should have been /32.
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2018, 01:24:41 PM »
Lol 3/32 makes much more sense than 3/1000

Awesome deal though, congrats on the find!
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2018, 02:02:27 AM »
Lol 3/32 makes much more sense than 3/1000
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4/32 is .125 inch, so that's somewhat more significant than .003 inch.
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2018, 08:14:30 AM »
I haven't done it before.  NYS has this site for reporting, no idea on damage/reimbursement though.  https://www.dot.ny.gov/programs/pothole-rpt

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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2018, 05:00:07 PM »
Just an FYI for everyone, TireRack shaves r-comps down to 6/32. I called once to ask if they could only shave down to 8/32. The response was, "Yes we can, but we need to reset the machine so it will cost $30 per tire instead of $15. So it can be done. Not sure about snow tires though.
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2018, 12:53:13 AM »
Kind of a moot point now, but;  That seems consistent with the quote in the write  up i linked, that said between $25-35 per tire for matching depth on existing street tires
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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2018, 11:04:05 AM »
I would imagine that shaving a snow tire is easier than an r-compound.   What size tires are they?  You can probably sell them on craigslist targeting FWD/RWD owners and they have a spare.  Thats what I did, but I was selling 205.50.17,  so very common size.

On my legacy I bought WRX take off wheels and tires  235/45/17.. WRX owners did not like the tires but they worked well for my n/a legacy.  Best part was when I had a blow out,  I bought another set of these tires off craigslist so I now had 7 that were all within 2/32.   Definitely needed them for when Holly bought the car.   :-(

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Re: Flat tire questions
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2018, 10:47:52 PM »
Found a used tire that is right in for size, type and wear. Crossing fingers it is as advertised.
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