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Offline Ammo5254

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perrin lowering springs
« on: April 05, 2006, 11:00:22 AM »
I've heard that these springs are the only ones on the market that are actually made to work with stock struts so they don't blow out...is this true?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2006, 11:04:46 AM »
No.

I have Eibachs, they work perfectly fine.
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2006, 11:22:27 AM »
I've heard that these springs are the only ones on the market that are actually made to work with stock struts so they don't blow out...is this true?

For what kind of car?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2006, 11:43:13 AM »
Whiteline also makes springs designed for use with stock dampers.  for GD, and GC bodies i belive
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2006, 12:11:54 AM »
I have a 2006 WRX...would perrin be good for the stock stuts?  Im not looking to void my warranty or have any problems here...thanks for the help guys  :mrgreen:

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2006, 10:58:19 AM »
Perrin springs have a low drop ie. around 1.8-2" IIRC

Lowering a stock dampener that much will significantly shorten your struts life.

It can be done and it prolly wont ride like balls initially, but if you drive on some of the shitty roads here in upstate be wary of potholes.

My stock dampeners lasted alil over a year after  being lowered on whitleine springs, which have a similair drop to the eibachs.  I think the trip to The Palace Theater when i got lost and drove through the very shitty streets of arbor hill finally did in the struts.  For anyone who's driven through AH you shouldve noticed the gross amount of potholes that are unavoidable.
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2006, 11:01:21 AM »
so what should i do if i wanna drop this thing?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2006, 11:08:50 AM »
here is the site that says its perfectly fine to use with stock struts

http://perrinperformance.com/products/wrx/springs.htm

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2006, 11:44:36 AM »
so what should i do if i wanna drop this thing?

Get properly matched struts or go full coilover.

As far as the warranty issue, they definitly could blame your springs or whichever modified suspension you end up going with on whatever issues that come up because of altering the original equipment.

They probably won't say anything about it until an issue comes up and you want it fixed under warranty.. you know what I mean?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2006, 12:38:17 PM »
here is the site that says its perfectly fine to use with stock struts

http://perrinperformance.com/products/wrx/springs.htm

These springs will work with your stock struts.  I was just trying to inform you of what can happen to the struts after a prolonged period of use.   As crazy it may sound our cars were designed for light off-road use.  That is why we have soo much fender gap and the struts seem stiff but supple over bumps.  On machperson strut suspensions like our imprezas, lowering a stock strut decreases suspension travel dramatically and the strut is considered under dampened for the spring.  This can result in a bouncy ride quality and decrease strut life.

I would purchase the springs but keep in mind that after awhile you might need to upgrade your struts.
Like pete said, properly matched struts or coilovers is ideal for lowering an impreza
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2006, 04:49:26 PM »
so whats my best bet now?  just get the springs with new struts now?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2006, 12:44:47 AM »
Just buy the springs.  Use them with stock struts untill they<struts> show signs of wear.

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2006, 09:26:01 PM »
and then once they signs of wear then just replace stock struts? about how much does this cost?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2006, 09:46:16 PM »
you can find stock struts from an 02-06 impreza for dirt cheap like >$200

i sold mine for $80 three years ago

If you want to upgrade struts you have three options:Listed from cheapest to most expensive   AGX's,Tockico's, Koni's
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2006, 11:05:11 PM »
should i replace the sturts now or wait?  if i wait some1 said i have about a year right?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2006, 11:24:55 PM »
Why would you replace the struts now?

Btw, my Eibachs (1.2 front, 1 back) have been on stocks for almost 3 years now. It honestly rides the same as the day it was put in.
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2006, 04:14:30 PM »
^^^^^^^^
Exactly


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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2006, 11:03:38 PM »
then why did some1 tell me it would only last me a year? im lost

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2006, 11:07:18 PM »
whats the diff between springs and coilovers again?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2006, 11:39:38 AM »
what they are saying is that there is no "safe" spring or any form of lowering that will keep your stock setups original lifespan. the stock strut was not meant to work under those conditions. there are struts that will work better than your stock pieces, some were metioned beforehand. if you arent doing a major drop, like the small amount you will get with the perrins, then its not completely necessary to swap out your stock struts, they will work, but yet again, will wear much faster under normal everday conditions then with stock springs.and coilover is a bad word since it refers to the fact that the springs are surrounding the strut, and the mcpherson system you all have is technically a coilover system. but the difference youre refering to is a regular lowering spring is just that, a spring that is different than your stock piece, whereas a coilover is an adjustable spring that basically drops in the same way, but is has adjustable height.

I hope ive helped rather than confuse you further. when youre doing something like just lowering your car rather than trying to set it up for a race app. then its a matter of taste and price. you get what you pay for and pay for what you want, not whats available or else you wont be happy. and if you really want to know what a product is capable of doing you should call a vendor and ask them questions about the product, see what they recommend. i dont know who you planned on buying them from but give them a call. im sure they wont mind.
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2006, 11:54:06 AM »
Check out SubaruReview.com for some customer reviews on many different brands of springs and all parts for that matter. 
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2006, 12:34:15 PM »
then why did some1 tell me it would only last me a year? im lost

If you plan to jump some hills or mountains, then you'd be replacing your stockies much sooner. For everyday drivers like me, just avoid those potholes and they'll last you quite a while.
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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2006, 05:09:00 PM »
so no1 really answered my question tho, whats the diff of springs and coilovers?

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Re: perrin lowering springs
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2006, 05:25:59 PM »
did you read my post or did the size scare you. my answer to you is make a good friend or hire a mechanic.
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