Topic: Finally, Subaru now 100% less Ken Block! (Read 1472 times)

9925leggy · « **Reply #25 on:** January 22, 2010, 01:48:56 PM »

he is pumping chodes full time now

Photofixer · « **Reply #26 on:** January 22, 2010, 05:30:56 PM »

Ok what DID i miss.. Nick is acting weird..

bignickbugeye · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2010, 12:26:26 AM »

im bitter cuz my car is slow. i want to sell it and get a 1970 datsun 510. but honestly good for ken block. i hope he does good outside the u.s.

RedRoof2 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 30, 2010, 08:07:54 AM »

update vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K37p0vw9cU

flutyr525 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 30, 2010, 11:33:52 PM »

that was sick...i could never imagine doing 100+ mph on a road the width of my car covered in ice and snow. lol! and that fiesta looks HOTTT!

deadlydave · « **Reply #30 on:** January 31, 2010, 12:13:56 PM »

Quote from: BlackParis on January 20, 2010, 06:46:46 PM

IDC.. Ford has been NON STOP hardcore into WRC since the 70s... Over 40 years.
Noone else even comes close to the amount that ford spends on racing and research and Driver Pay. (the reasons subaru pulled out of WRC)

I can't argue with Ford's experience. It's just a shame that all of it got no recognition in the home market. I hope that changes a bit with the globalization of all their platforms. The driver pay argument is kind of weaksauce, because the Steinbrenner does the same thing in baseball--you buy a team instead of build a team.

Subaru primarily pulled out of the WRC because the 2010 rules mandate a spec transmission for transverse mounted inline 4 engine. Subaru doesn't have one so they told the FIA to get fucked. Not since Group B has the WRC been Nerfed so bad. It's basically turned into Formula 2.0 WRC. The good news is that the EVO's just been getting better since they canned their WRC program, maybe the STI's will get better as well.

RedRoof2 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 31, 2010, 03:19:42 PM »

Quote from: deadlydave on January 31, 2010, 12:13:56 PM

I can't argue with Ford's experience. It's just a shame that all of it got no recognition in the home market. I hope that changes a bit with the globalization of all their platforms.

Ford never got the recognition here in the states because of three reasons. Rednecks, Rednecks and Rednecks.
To some of the assholes reliving the glory days, fords are about mustangs, lifted trucks and circle track racing. The corporate culture wasn't about to push something on a large group of people too ignorant to willingly accept any of it, which leads me to Section II of today's rant: I hate the South, I hate the South, I hate the South.

Yes, it's perfectly easy to blame the South and the Midwest for everything ignorant, hillbilly and backward about america. Oh it's true, just watch me do it. I hold that conservative, closed-minded culture responsible for the demise of GM, the shitty domestic cars we blindly accepted and the popularity of trailer park nascar enthusiasm.

I have no idea how any of this has to do with WRC's decision, but i'm sure if I keep ranting, i'll find a way to connect.

BlackParis · « **Reply #32 on:** January 31, 2010, 07:04:29 PM »

Quote from: deadlydave on January 31, 2010, 12:13:56 PM

Subaru primarily pulled out of the WRC because the 2010 rules mandate a spec transmission for transverse mounted inline 4 engine. Subaru doesn't have one so they told the FIA to get fucked. Not since Group B has the WRC been Nerfed so bad. It's basically turned into Formula 2.0 WRC.

More like, They dont have the money to completely rebuild their car (designing a new engine/transaxel), after spending soo much on the 09 WRC, and NOT getting anywhere with it.

And its not like FIA NEEDS subaru.. They could care less.. They want Saftey... Exactly why the rules were changed.

deadlydave · « **Reply #33 on:** February 01, 2010, 01:59:30 PM »

Quote from: BlackParis on January 31, 2010, 07:04:29 PM

More like, They dont have the money to completely rebuild their car (designing a new engine/transaxel), after spending soo much on the 09 WRC, and NOT getting anywhere with it.

And its not like FIA NEEDS subaru.. They could care less.. They want Saftey... Exactly why the rules were changed.

I agree on your first point, they don't have the money as a niche automaker to design something so alien to them. And they also haven't been competitive since '03.

I think the FIA's decision was 49% 'lets make it cheap and safe' and 51% 'subaru is more famous for WRC than we, the owners of the WRC are. Fuck' em!' The FIA is full of egomaniacs.

In other news

Quote from: autoblog.com

Ken Block, sporting his trademark goatee and a new Ford Fiesta rally car, retired after just seven stages due to suspension failure.

stylesrex · « **Reply #34 on:** February 01, 2010, 03:56:59 PM »

SIMPLY

flat engines suck. if subaru made a REAL engine it couldve used the FIA transmission.

BlackParis · « **Reply #35 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:02:08 PM »

Quote from: deadlydave on February 01, 2010, 01:59:30 PM

I think the FIA's decision was 49% 'lets make it cheap and safe' and 51% 'subaru is more famous for WRC than we, the owners of the WRC are. Fuck' em!' The FIA is full of egomaniacs.

No It was nothing ABOUT Subaru.. it was a descision based on saftey. FIA changes rally Rules about every 10 years... WRC as you know it started in 97. (Group S cars AKA WRC) before that 87-96 was Group A and 82-86 Group B

Rules get changed for saftey.. WRC had NO suspension travel Limits. S2000 Does.. WRC had NO Trans/Diff limitations.. S2000 Does..

Give it 3-4 years.. S2000 cars will be pretty Insane, pushing the limits of the rules again...

RedRoof2 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:23:32 PM »

Quote from: stylesrex on February 01, 2010, 03:56:59 PM

SIMPLY

flat engines suck. if subaru made a REAL engine it couldve used the FIA transmission.

+karma

deadlydave · « **Reply #37 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:34:52 PM »

Quote from: stylesrex on February 01, 2010, 03:56:59 PM

SIMPLY

flat engines suck. if subaru made a REAL engine it couldve used the FIA transmission.

I remember when M3's used to have real engines...

RedRoof2 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 01, 2010, 06:16:57 PM »

Quote from: deadlydave on February 01, 2010, 05:34:52 PM

I remember when M3's used to have real engines...

You do realize by definition, you just insulted your IS300...

deadlydave · « **Reply #39 on:** February 01, 2010, 09:35:53 PM »

Quote from: RedRoof2 on February 01, 2010, 06:16:57 PM

You do realize by definition, you just insulted your IS300...

Hey, hey...that was a copy of a 325, which always had a 6 cyl.

It's the pinnacle of the rally discipline, it shouldn't have budgets and it shouldn't be nerf padded. I mean, drivers are hurtling through the forest on a 1 lane road...how safe can you make it?

bignickbugeye · « **Reply #40 on:** February 02, 2010, 04:23:00 AM »

Quote from: stylesrex on February 01, 2010, 03:56:59 PM

SIMPLY

flat engines suck. if subaru made a REAL engine it couldve used the FIA transmission.

true, sadly enough. i love em, but every once in a while i think to myself reeeeealy?.....

RedRoof2 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 02, 2010, 06:53:56 AM »

Quote from: deadlydave on February 01, 2010, 09:35:53 PM

Hey, hey...that was a copy of a 325, which always had a 6 cyl.

It's the pinnacle of the rally discipline, it shouldn't have budgets and it shouldn't be nerf padded. I mean, drivers are hurtling through the forest on a 1 lane road...how safe can you make it?

True, but yours didn't always have a 6 cyl. You forget the 3sge powered Altezza.

As for rally... how safe can you make it... let's just say WRC fans might not be making fun of Nascar or tube chassis anymore. It could end up being the norm.

deadlydave · « **Reply #42 on:** February 02, 2010, 11:30:10 AM »

Quote from: RedRoof2 on February 02, 2010, 06:53:56 AM

True, but yours didn't always have a 6 cyl. You forget the 3sge powered Altezza.

As for rally... how safe can you make it... let's just say WRC fans might not be making fun of Nascar or tube chassis anymore. It could end up being the norm.

I mean the previous WRC-spec bodies were quite heavily reinforced anyways. I could deal with JGTC-style rules: everything forward of the firewall and rearward of the rear shock towers is tube frame, only the passenger compartment from original car remains but is heavily reinforced.

Toyota should come back to WRC! Haven't had any cheaters in a while.

RedRoof2 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 02, 2010, 12:03:17 PM »

Quote from: deadlydave on February 02, 2010, 11:30:10 AM

Toyota should come back to WRC! Haven't had any cheaters in a while.

You mean you haven't had anyone get CAUGHT in a while

Give credit where it's due. I guarantee you there are other items out there on current vehicles that have not yet been discovered.

"Inside it was beautifully made. The springs inside the hose had been polished and machined so not to impede the air which passed through. To force the springs open without the special tool would require substantial force. It is the most sophisticated and ingenious device either I or the FIA's technical experts have seen for a long-time. It was so well made that there was no gap apparent to suggest there was any means of opening it."

cazwrx187 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 11, 2010, 01:04:18 PM »

Good riddance to bad rubbish

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