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Offline Jay9786

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« on: March 08, 2010, 06:01:00 PM »
anyone ever had things like a hoodscoop, rear spats painted. looking for ballpark cost and where you had it done. Also looking into a getting a sti limited spoiler and shaving my keyhole and subie emblem, and having that painted. Any info would be great. Thanks !!!!!!!!
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Re: painting
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 07:28:17 PM »
i have a friend that may do mine but im in the same boat
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Re: painting
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 08:38:57 PM »
i painted bignicks stock scoop with a can from paintscratch (matches WRB perfectly), i could do your scoop and spats, id just have you buy the the stuff (sand paper, primer, paint and clear coat) cost alot less then pro

and you can ask nick how his came out even when he had big patches of paint missing...

if you want pro i cant help ya there. just offering!
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Re: painting
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 10:29:06 PM »
thats an option...if he could post a picture of the finished product that would be cool.
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Re: painting
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 09:13:12 AM »
saratoga autobody supply will sell you rattle cans that are exact to your color from subaru.  They run about 25 a can and you'll also want to use oem clear coat.  So figure something like a hood scoop should cost you 50 buck to do it yourself plus the base primer (and you can use anything basically for that)

something as large as a hood you might want to take to an autobody shop, depends how good you are at painting
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Re: painting
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2010, 01:45:23 PM »
Im not the confident with my painting abilities lol
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Re: painting
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 05:06:19 PM »
I'm in the same situation as you with my mirrors. I'd be willing to let someone with experience paint them for me if they wanted to give it a shot. Let me know. Corey

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Re: painting
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 08:29:56 PM »
It's about 500 bucks to get a hood done.

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Re: painting
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 09:25:48 PM »
ive been practicing for years now and nothing has come out good UNTIL i figured out that prep work is the most important! i plan on putting up a mini booth in my garage here soon to do small stuff...maybe even get a low pressure gun.
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Re: painting
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 09:36:22 PM »
ive been practicing for years now and nothing has come out good UNTIL i figured out that prep work is the most important! i plan on putting up a mini booth in my garage here soon to do small stuff...maybe even get a low pressure gun.

I learned the same thing, PREP PREP PREP.

I'd be comfortable painting mirrors or such, i did them on my old legacy.  Also done stuff like minor trim, lots of grilles, wheels, brakes, and bumper lips. 
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Re: painting
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2010, 09:45:34 PM »
i always seen to have a problem putting clear coat on. Is it clear coat in a can just dosent do the trick, do I need a real gun? Lets say I want to try and paint my own hood scoop. Dont they come primed ready for paint? So some sanding..working my way to 2000, followed by 1-2 light layers 1 med and 1 heavy coat of paint, followed by a wet sand of 1000 then 2000, followed by clear coat? Ive done alot of research of wheel painting but and my wheels came out great...except when I tried to clear them.

If someone could walk me through the steps of doing my hoodscoop...I would attempt it myself with the guidence of someone who has some clue to stop me from fucking up lol. free beers around!
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Re: painting
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2010, 10:20:29 PM »
i always seen to have a problem putting clear coat on. Is it clear coat in a can just dosent do the trick, do I need a real gun? Lets say I want to try and paint my own hood scoop. Dont they come primed ready for paint? So some sanding..working my way to 2000, followed by 1-2 light layers 1 med and 1 heavy coat of paint, followed by a wet sand of 1000 then 2000, followed by clear coat? Ive done alot of research of wheel painting but and my wheels came out great...except when I tried to clear them.

If someone could walk me through the steps of doing my hoodscoop...I would attempt it myself with the guidence of someone who has some clue to stop me from fucking up lol. free beers around!

if you want to learn i can give you a hand, ive only gone as far as 320 haha and usually the primer and paint fills the lines of the paper fine but if you want to go that fine then so be it! i did my wheels with cans, and side skirts but im doing an overhaul here soon, re-doing alot of things...

clear coat is tricky, im still working on it, due to its hard to see, you have to go light every coat so it doesnt run, and ive noticed clear takes a little longer to dry also, WRB is a darker color so its not as hard, but on my silver its a bitch to see the clear coat and to tell if it ran or not.
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Re: painting
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 03:54:44 PM »
Yea when I get home ill pop up a pic of my greg painted scoop.  He did a solid job.  Better than I did on my big ol scooper
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Re: painting
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 06:11:05 PM »
The clearcoat is where I always run into problems. I can spray it without runs, but it always has a dimpled finish. It still looks ok but it just has a texture to it and doesn't have that glass like finish. I'm sure this is because I am rattle canning it, i'd love to try with a paint gun I could prob do some pretty nice work.
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Re: painting
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 07:19:36 PM »
I think ill run by a few shops and ask them how much to paint my stock scoop, as im sure it will be about the same for the sti scoop. if its over 100 ill either try it myself or try and be patient till one comes along on nasioc. seems like every time I see one someone already has dib  :cry:
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Re: painting
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2010, 07:28:53 PM »
for reference, i was quoted ~$150-$200 to have my stock sideskirts painted...less surface area and only 1 piece instead of 2 so <$100 sounds possible :mrgreen:
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Re: painting
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2010, 09:59:10 PM »
The clearcoat is where I always run into problems. I can spray it without runs, but it always has a dimpled finish. It still looks ok but it just has a texture to it and doesn't have that glass like finish. I'm sure this is because I am rattle canning it, i'd love to try with a paint gun I could prob do some pretty nice work.

rattle can or not, ive had that problem once or twice and it seems to do it if you dont shake the can enough or dont let the other paint dry throughly...havent run into that texture in a while now. or it could be the kind of clear you buy FYI the wal-mart stuff for a dollar a can is not good at all.

also if you do paint something that is going onto your car, let the paint heal for at least 5 days, put it inside and let it sit, it does help instead of just throwing it on, rattle paint isnt the strongest.
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Re: painting
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2010, 10:27:30 PM »
i got the dimpled clear a lot when temps dropped at dusk during summer or humidity took went up. 

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Re: painting
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2010, 10:34:58 PM »
Yea after getting the "dimples" I let it set for a few days then tried to sand/rubbing compound to smooth it out. It was all down hill from there.... I think I actually stripped that one and started fresh, what a nightmare :tickedoff:
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Re: painting
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2010, 03:14:01 PM »
just got a quote from a good body shop next door to where I work..80-100 for the hood scoop, 350-450 for a shaved keyhole, emblem and painted trunk with a dent fixed. not to bad and there pretty well known. ac body works. about 100 for rear spats as well.
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Re: painting
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2010, 03:43:15 PM »
i'd do the rear splats and scoop yourself with a color matched rattle can.  items that small are pretty hard to mess up
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Re: painting
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2010, 04:00:05 PM »
ac body works.
I used to be friends with the owner's son back in our middle/high school days......but don't mention my name.  he was convinced I was a drug dealer for some reason  :uglystupid2:  :2funny:

anyway, I've never used them for anything (do tp the drama from the part i mentioned above), but have always heard good things.  I agree though, try the small stuff yourself.  If it comes out good you save yourself enough to pay for half of te trunk work at those prices! If you screw up, you sand it down and prime it and maybe they'll cut you a break on the painting if they don't have to prep  :mrgreen:  
Worst case you're out like $15 and an hour of your time
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Re: painting
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2010, 04:25:46 PM »
the color match can was 25bucks....add in primer and clear coat and sand paper and your up to 40 bucks or so. Like I mentioned before, I can do the color spray but I have no confidence that I could clear coat my scoop to look anything like my hoods clear coat. Rattle can clear coat just dosent do a good job imo. maybe im wrong, id just hate to spend a full day, 40-50 bucks and have to go have it it done at a shop anyways. If someones done some rattle can color match and clear on a body part id love to take a look to see what it looks like.

If someone could do the step by step to painting a body piece that would be awesome

what sand paper to prep with
what primer
sand after pimer coats?
sand in between color coats?
sand after last color coat?
let color coat cure for 2-3 days before clear or clear the same day?
sand during clear coating with 2000grit wet or not?

I have done alot of paint research and some of those things change depending who's doing the right up...I would love to do it myself If I thought I could get it to look pretty good.
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Re: painting
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2010, 08:43:09 PM »
heres what i do and if nick gets his pic of the scoop up here you can see...

i use 320 grit and get it smooth
whatever primer that adheres to the kind of surface you are doing i.e: plastic, fiberglass, metal. rust-oleum would be fine
you can sand down again with 320 grit and then primer again, any more than that you'll be wasting your time
sanding in between your color coats? i have never done that and never had a problem
if you feel the paint isnt smooth enough then wet sand with 2000, and apply again
you can let the coats cure for a few hours, dont have to wait days, then start putting the clear on
again if you think the paint is not smooth or have some run, wet sand with 2000 and apply clear again BUT wayy lighter

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Re: painting
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2010, 11:03:31 PM »
ive been practicing for years now and nothing has come out good UNTIL i figured out that prep work is the most important! i plan on putting up a mini booth in my garage here soon to do small stuff...maybe even get a low pressure gun.

i've got a paint gun around here somewhere.  found it on clearance a couple years ago, but never got a compressor, so it's still sitting in the box.....I'll dig it up, see if I can find any details on it if you're interested  :mrgreen:
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